Hello.
I care not whether this email is responded to. As gently as possible, I want to make a serious point.
Everything you do can be summed up in 2 words: delusion and speculation (extreme speculation).
When I was young, as an amateur astronomer participating in lunar observations, I encountered an “unusual” orbital event. (Think: what happens when a powerful source of light is turned upon a smoothly polished aluminum or steel surface?). I reported it to the Air Force in about 1965-1970, and when I contacted them for a response to my report: total silence. It was as if my report disappeared.
[1] If there are EBE’s (Extra-Biologic Entities) consider the following facts:
(a) the technology to travel billions of miles to a tiny blue planet on the edge of a galaxy is literally “light years” above everything we have. Even if you talk about the research into PDE engines for aircraft. Which begs the question: WHY? There is no logical reason to travel all that distance for a planet that is, let’s face it, insigniticant in the universe.
(b) As a result: why could they possibly have any interest in us? They are as far above us, as we are above the ants. Would a homo sapiens establish a cooperative scientific relationship with an ant? Don’t be ridiculous.
[2] After decades of research here is another speculative solution: the EBE’s came to our planet, and there was a “Civil War”. There is evidence of 2 groups having “dog-fights” in the sky. Two groups: One wanting to dominate these “ants” and the other wanting to nurture. In either case, we lose.
Your work is entertaining, but specious and speculative.
You have as much chance of finding out “the truth” as I have of finding out the result of my report to the Air Force, and what the hell I saw orbiting the moon in 2 separate groups.
I love emails like this! I would refer to people much smarter than myself for the answers to such questions, people like Dr. Michio Kaku. However, I will say that for some reason there are scientists on earth that have an interest in ants.
As you all know, I am not looking for the truth. I have never claimed to be nor am I looking to do anything but speculate - especially since anything beyond speculation is pretty much impossible. To me, the answers are not as important as the questions and quest.
However, I do not know how anything could be more speculative than this person's comment about a civil war. That is pure speculation. Not that I find anything wrong with that, but you probably shouldn't do it if you are trying to make a point about someone else doing the same.
I am not sure what this person is referring to as delusion. That ETs exist or that I will never find the truth. Since I don't believe or care that I will find the truth, there is no delusion there. I also don't care whether there are ETs, it is the mystery as a whole that attracts me.
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I suspect that it may be interesting to note that those persons taking the time to lecture you on your "delusion" are the ones most guilty of delusion, themselves.
Life, the Universe and Everything are illusions anyway so rock on.
The entire field of UFOlogy is speculation, though speculation based on what little we know -- which is virtually nothing. The ant analogy is becoming a bit tiresome. I've used it in the past to help illustrate the Kardashev scale, where humanity is thought to be at a Type 0 civilizations in comparsion to, say Type 1 or 2, But assuming they wouldn't be interested us is speculation itself, and as you pointed out, Lesley, there are indeed scientists who are interested in ants.
Since we know near-absolutely nothing about what we perceive as "extra-terrestrial" (because of course, we do not now for certain that is exactly what "they" are) we cannot guess their interests -- or even if their interests are specifically *us* and not the planet and it's resources -- or even it's possible locational advantages.
A lot of the arguments about distance and travel have been examined time and time again, and according to current Newtonian physics, is impractical and would take an ungodly amount of time in many cases. But the problem (to me) is that we cannot guess the level of understanding of an advanced civilization, and shouldn't necessarily close the door on extreme interstellar travel because it assumes that what we currently understand is all there is (and that time on earth is universal). We assumed that 100 years ago, and a lot has changed since then, and I suspect a lot will change in the next 100 years.
I'm not going to throw around terms like 'string theory' and 'quantum mechanics' -- those are used far too often by people who don't even really understand them, but have only seen one too many specials on Discovery Channel or BBC's Horizon series. The point I'm making is that current physical laws may have more components than previously thought. We do have to adhere to the core principles as we understand them for current practical application, because its all we know, but as Einstein once said, "you cannot solve a problem on the level on which it was created." I think that applies well to the argument of interstellar travel and the perceived travel-lengths involved. The solution to such a 'problem' may be outside of what we currently know about how space-time works (and if it really can be torn and folded). I'm certainly no physicist, either. I have an interest in physics, but I'm not going to pretend I have some great understanding of it. What I do understand is that physics has not been an exact science when you look at how its come along over the last few centuries.
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Another problem I have is that it is assumed that if an advanced EBE does exist, that they are based across the galaxy, when they very well may be next-door, which would certainly change the idea that our planet is insignificant. Maybe it is for someone living on a planet in Messier 31, but maybe not for someone that's only a few light-years to tens of light-years away. When you think about that from our current perspective, and the mad-dash to find Extra-solar planets, and consider that one day we hope to explore nearby ones in person, like we plan on sending humans to Mars (which is arguably as impractical a journey as any, according to this individuals opinions) it changes things. Why? Because if we are out exploring, why the hell wouldn't someone else be, or have done in the past?
In point #2 of his email, I am not clear what he is trying to say. It doesn't seem to be relevant to what he is arguing, unless I am missing something. Wouldn't #2 negate his argument of vast distances? And what evidence is there of dog-fights in the sky (I'd certainly like to know as well as how he knows they were dog-fights, a decidedly human concept)? How does the idea that EBEs have been here, in his scenario, *two* groups (which I assume to be two separate civilization) figure in to his overall point? And what exactly do we "lose"?
Lastly, why do people always assume that all aliens are type 1 civilizations (assuming we are type 0)? What if they were only 5000 years above us? If that were a possibility, we wouldn't be "ants" in that comparison.
And why do we always assume that UFOs and abduction encounters are "extra-terrestrial" in nature?
In any case, I think its safe to say that in most cases, we don't know jack shit, so all any of us really have is speculation. Even the scientists.
It seems to me that the person who sent the email is speculating himself. I think the idea that aliens are 'scientists' with 'technology' is itself speculation. Maybe they are....but maybe they aren't.
Deirdre - That is an awesome comment! You should post it at your blog!
And just to comment on 1 point - it always bugs me when people seem to think that we KNOW what the laws of science are or what can and can't be done according to them. It was not that long ago that scientists thought that air travel of any kind was impossible.
Thanks Lesley =)
Sometimes I am more than just a snarky smartass!
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